Mr. Burns Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 Ok.. most of you might not care, but this some hardcore info... These are the first clear pics of the Chengdu J-10, the latest indigenous chinese fighter... It's quite awesome info there... might interest some of you -------------------------------------------- J-10 Multirole Fighter Aircraft [img]http://www.x-plane.org/users/asnamara/J-10.jpg[/img] NAME: PLA Official Designation: Jianji-10 or Jian-10 (J-10) Westernised Name: F-10 CONTRACTOR: Chengdu Aircraft Industry Co. (CAC) TYPE: Fourth-generation single-engine, single-seat multirole fighter for interception, air superiority, and ground attack missions. SERVICE STATUS According to the latest reports from a Chinese official media, a type of new fighter aircraft has entered service with a PLAAF unit based in east China, implying that the J-10 has completed its flight tests and entered service. It is estimated that in addition to the original 6 prototype aircraft, at least another 10 aircraft have been built for operational test and evaluation (OT&E) phase in combat units. PROGRAMME The Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (CAC) J-10 is a single-seat single-engine multirole fighter aircraft with general performance matching aircraft such as France Mirage 2000 or U.S. F-16C/D. After over fifteen years of development since 1988, the aircraft is now ready to enter the PLAAF and PLA Naval Aviation service. Work on the J-10 began in the 1980s as a counter to the Soviet fourth-generation fighters the MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker. The original mission was air superiority, but the end of the Cold War and changing requirements shifted development towards a multirole fighter to replace the Shenyang J-6, Chengdu J-7, and Nanchan Q-5, which dominate the air fleets of the PLAAF. [img]http://www.x-plane.org/users/asnamara/j10_2.jpg[/img] [i]The J-10 prototype in test flight, carrying two PL-8 short-range AAM mockups[/i] The original design of the J-10 was based on the cancelled Israel Aviation Industry (IAI) Lavi lightweight fighter. China and Israel started collaboration in the early 1980's and full-scale co-operation was underway by 1984. After the 1987 cancellation of the Lavi programme, its design was taken over by the CAC, and the IAI carried on with the development of avionic equipment. The J-10 differs from the Lavi mainly in the primary mission carried out by the aircraft. The Lavi was originally designed as a short-range air support and interdiction aircraft, with a secondary mission of air superiority, while the PLAAF is interested in replacing its large fleet of outdated J-6 and J-7 fighters, for which air superiority capabilities remain a top priority while the air-to-ground attack capability is of secondary importance. In addition, the Lavi project had included many elements that Israel could not develop by itself, and China cannot obtain these key technologies from the US. The J-10's development has experienced some serious difficulties due to the Fly-By-Wire (FBW) and engine problems, which resulted in the loss of the No.2 prototype aircraft and its test pilot in 1997. The CAC engineers had to face some major re-design work, which caused a major setback in the J-10's development. Later the revised FBW software was successfully tested on a Shenyang J-8IIACT technical demonstration aircraft, and Russians also agreed to offer its Lyulka Saturn AL-31F turbofan engines for incorporation into the J-10. The maiden flight of the J-10 took place in 1996. By 1998 a total of six prototype aircraft had been built for various tests and evaluation. Some estimates project that the as many as 300 aircraft will be produced for the Chinese air force, although reports suggest as few as 30 aircraft will have been built by 2005. [img]http://www.x-plane.org/users/asnamara/j10_3.jpg[/img] [i]Once entering service, the J-10 will become the backbone of the Chinese air force[/i] DESIGN FEATURES The J-10 has a rectangle belly air intake, with low-mounted delta wings, a pair of front canard wings, a large vertical fin, and two underfuselage fins. The design is aerodynamically unstable, to provide a high level of agility, low drag and enhanced lift. The pilot controls the aircraft through a computerised digital fly-by-wire system, which provides artificial stabilisation and gust elevation to give good control characteristics throughout the flight envelope. COCKPIT: The J-10's cockpit is fitted with three flat-panel liquid crystal multifunction displays (MFDs), including one colour MFD, wide field-of-view head-up display (HUD), and possibly helmet-mounted sight (HMS). It is not know whether the HMS is the basic Ukrainian Arsenel HMS copied by China's Luoyang Avionics, or a new helmet display featured briefly at the 2000 Zhuhai air show. The pilot manipulates the J-10 by the 'Iron Bird' flight-control system, a quadruple (four channels) digital fly-by-wire (FBW) based on the active control technology tested by the Shenyang J-8IIACT demonstrator aircraft. The pilot will also be aided by advanced autopilot and air data computer. RADAR: Several options are available for the J-10 fighter. These include the Russian Phazotron Zhuk-10PD, a version of the system in later Su-27s, with 160 km search range and ability to track up to six targets. Israel has offered its Elta EL/M-2035 radar for competition. In addition, China has also developed its own design JL-10A, which might be assisted by Russian technology. For low-level navigation and precision strike, a forward-looking infrared and laser designation pod is likely to be carried F-16-style on an inlet stores station. A Chinese designed pod similar to the Israeli Rafael Litening was revealed at the 1998 Zhuhai air show. [img]http://www.x-plane.org/users/asnamara/j10_4.jpg[/img] [i]Although the J-10 prototypes are powered by a Lyulka Saturn AL-31F turbofan engine, it was reported that the operational J-10 will be fitted with an indigenous design[/i] ENGINE: The single-seat, single-engine J-10 is similar in size to the Lockheed Martin F-16C/D. The initial batch J-10s are going to be powered by 27,500 lb-thrust (120 kN) Russian Lyulka Saturn AL-31F turbofan, the same power plant also being used by Chinese air force Sukhoi Su-27s and Su-30s. Some report indicated that 100 AL-31F engines with features specially designed for the J-10 have already been delivered to China in early 2001. China is also developing its own WS-10 turbofan power plant, and it could be fitted on the later versions of the J-10. According to the U.S. intelligence, the J-10 might be slightly more manoeuvrable than the U.S. Navy's F-18E/F Super Hornet fighter aircraft. ARMARMENTS: The fixed weapon of the J-10 is a 23 mm internal cannon. The J-10 has 11 stores stations - six under the wing and five under the fuselage. The inner wing and centre fuselage stations are plumped to carry external fuel tanks. Fixed weapon is a 23-mm inner cannon hidden inside fuselage. In addition to the PL-8 short-range infrared-guided air-to-air missile reportedly derived from Israeli Rafael Python-3 technology, the J-10 could also carry Russian Vympel R-73 (AA-11) short-range and R-77 (AA-12) medium-range missiles equipped by Chinese Flankers. It may also be fitted with indigenously developed PL-11 or PL-12 medium-range AAM for BVR combat. For ground attack missions, the J-10 will carry laser-guided bombs, YJ-8K anti-ship missile, as well as various unguided bombs and rockets. Some missiles currently under development such as the YJ-9 ramjet-powered anti-radiation missile may also be carried by the J-10. UPGRADE According to the sources inside the CAC, a two-seater fighter-trainer version J-10 is currently under development. It is expected that this variant, possibly designated as J-10B, will roll out in near future. It also projects that a twin-engine naval variant of the J-10 might be fitted on China's first aircraft carrier. An all-aspect vectored-thrust version of the AL-31F was revealed for the first time at Zhuhai Air Show 1998, leading to speculation that this advanced engine may wind up on the J-10, potentially conferring phenomenal manoeuvrability. China might also be considering upgrading the J-10 with more advanced phased-array radar from Russia or Israel to improve its combat capabilities. PERFORMANCE Crew: One Dimensions: N/A Weight: N/A Powerplant: One Lyulka Saturn AL-31F turbofan, rated at 17,857 lb (79.43 kN) dry and 27,557 lb st (122.58 kN) with afterburning Maximum Speed: Mach 1.2 (sea-level) or Mach 2.0 (high altitude) Range: Combat radius over 550 km Service Ceiling: N/A Maximum Climb Rate: N/A G Limit: N/A Stores Stations: 11, six under the wing and five under the fuselage, up to 4,500 kg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Burns Posted May 20, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 MORE PICS: [img]http://www.warchina.com/jspl25/images/j10.jpg[/img] [img]http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/images/j10_12.jpg[/img] These were the first sight of the J-10 leaked to the world about 1 year or 2 ago with no details: [img]http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/images/j10new.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.emeraldesigns.com/matchup/pics/j10_1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.net4war.com/news4war/images/j-10.jpg[/img] For Comparison, The Lavi and the Eurofighter (respectively) [img]http://www.israelifalcons.com/ll11.jpg[/img] [img]http://roi.orf.at/thema/abfangjaeger/img/eurofighter.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry_pothead Posted May 20, 2003 Report Share Posted May 20, 2003 I dunno...... flying a fighter plane that is made in china would worry me. Think about it. It is the same country that makes those tiger videogames that always break. It would suck to have the buttons stp working when flying at mach2. and why is the landing gear down on almost all the photos? dont they ever get airbourne properly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Burns Posted May 22, 2003 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 I wouldn't trust it either Mixing israeli and chinese technology can't produce anthing decent the landing gears are down coz most of the photos are not legal officially the plane doesn't exist or maybe only on paper. these shots are taken people that manage to get close to the test base with a powerful zoom B) they can't take pics of it in flight..only at places where they can predict ie airbases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha Bob Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 Its amazing how all the planes look exactly the same to me - mebe thats just due to my complete lack of knowledge about things that can fly - besides how to board a 747. but after looking at pictures like that it makes me wonder how many chinese spys there are in military position, either that or sitting down at some little computer in a rice paddy with numbers above their heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tha_rooster Posted May 22, 2003 Report Share Posted May 22, 2003 spies or planspotters what do you reckon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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